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Post by vivaradoshi on Wed May 01, 2013 9:58 pm





At last after an interval of 4 months waiting the Nagpur High court Division bench made the order to UGC NET June 2012 Exam written candidate's favour. The court ordered to cancel the UGC notification of changing criteria saying it is arbitrary and illegal as said by Kerala High Court Single bench order.


No doubt it is a good news to every victim of NET, especially who wrote exam in a prejudice that getting the minimum percentage is enough for a pass. Such candidates was enough confident to pass NET June 2012 without much effort as 40 40 50 in 3 papers were very easy task for them. So they didn't made huge preparation for getting first rank or high marks. In the exam hall such candidates even not bothered to engage more time in tough questions as they measured that they have already made 25 questions (50%) in first and second and 40 questions in Paper 3. And left exam hall with expectation of sure pass. Such people has proved they can qualify at any percentage by passing in December 2012. Some of the candidates were aware of that 65% is must to pass December 2012 from the experience. Some others again fall in the nearby percentage.

The face book groups pretending they are in the side of victims are really disappointing in this situation once again. It proves that they have not studied lesson from past experience. Earlier in December when Kerala SB order came in favour of students, the face book leaders had discouraged the non-petitioner victims to not to join the petition by a fake supreme court order. The non petitioners were very eager to join the case in that time and were in the stage of organising themselves. But some face book who wants to discourage them lifted up fake SC News and said others to not to join petition. This caused the shortage of petitioners and lost the importance of case before the judges. So they put off the case from 21 January to February 14 and then to Feb 21 then to 28, then to March 5 and 6 and then to March 15 and atlast to March 28, then reserved the verdict.This may not be happen if there all the 25 000 victims in Kerala was joined in petition. The judges may take it more seriously and even Supreme court order may have come. But the idiotic leaders in facebook came across in that way of speedy solution. They closed the right path of victims. Truly some of them are unknowingly.

But now it is happening again. One of the leader who claimed himself as a lawyer ( His post in face book proves he knew nothing even english grammar) said in post that the Nagpur Division bench is ordered UGC to not to move Supreme Court. I request all of you to read the above news. He and his facebook idiots are complete idiots and they even understand what a news report says. In the report it says that "After the judgement was pronounced, the Assistant SGI SK Mishra prayed on behalf of UGC for staying the operation of the Judgement, to enable UGC to move Supreme Court, the court did not granted this request"

These lines are read as the court ordered UGC to not to Supreme Court in facebook. Actually UGC has not asked permission to go Supreme court in Nagpur Court ( There is no need for UGC, the permission of a lower court to move into higher Court). UGC only asked for the stay the operation of judgement and Nagpur DB did not allowed it. It is not ordered UGC to not to go SC and the court has no right to order such thing. Yet facebook idiots including those who are pretending as admins and leaders are propagating Nagpur DB ordered UGC to not to go SC. What satisfaction did they get likes as someone mentioned in my earlier posts?

Another foolishness made by these leaders are propagation of " all applicable theory". These idiots thinks that the matter when reached in Supreme Court will be as easy as Single Bench and Division Bench. When a judgement came in favour of candidates more people come to group and it is the time to encourage them to join in petition or just organise them in proper way. But these idiots makes cool them by saying the verdict is applicable to all. so you need not do any thing, simply sit in your homes, the other petitioners will bear the fees of advocates in supreme court also and you just enjoy by clapping us and giving likes. When some persons make them bother these sides these idiot leader warn others and and mark the rightly said persons as UGC spy

A member in south group call himself as a tail ''Christmas". His main job in facebook is scolding and abusing UGC officials and acquiring likes. I think people like him has to beg others to join the case with in two months. Thus he will realize the some members were not afraid and his thinking was correct

So Congratulation to all 18 Petitioners whose effort and money has brought us victory. Some leaders in face book who do nothing pretends as all are their effort just for likes and comments in facebook. Beware of this leaders and Non petitioners, please organise yourself and all petitioners need your help in Supreme court. The 18 petitioners can't afford the fees of Supreme court. If you want a final victory please do this


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Post by samkzd on Thu May 02, 2013 12:44 am

Thanks sir

from the news it is clear that UGC will move SC. Their intension to approach SC is clearly revealed by advocate Mishra. I have posted this in both the group of facebook. Unfortunately even the leaders has not accepted this proof and some of them misinterpreted this as court ordered UGC not to move SC. My post has also deleted in one group-even leaders are not matured and makes irresponsible statements which makes people dreamy and inactive, nothing else, for getting likes many of them are scolding UGC by which we have no use in getting our e certificate

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Post by Sanjayg on Thu May 02, 2013 8:36 am

Hey doshi,
what a nonsense have you written? Don't you have any job? Simply sitting in front of computers and typing nonsense?
Why are you engaged in abusing leaders of facebook groups who restlessly fighting for the benefit of all victims of NET june 2012? If you have different opinion you can boldly express it in the facebook group itself. But you take this coward's path. Noone will believe in your nonsense. This site is also not famous. So people will not even see or read your nonsense. Coward people like you can only do this. If you have guts come and reveal your facebook name. Post it there.

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Post by vivaradoshi on Fri May 03, 2013 7:41 pm

A guest member called Sanjayg, as a reply to my post on the news of Nagpur High Court Division Bench Order and Facebook idiots, has made the following statements

  1. I am writing here nonsenses
  2. I haven't any job rather than typing this
  3. I am simply sitting infront of computer and typing nonsense
  4. I am engaged in abusing leaders of facebook group formed for UGC NET 2012 June victims
  5. Those leaders are restlessly working for the benefit of all victims
  6. I have some different opinion in this matter
  7. I should express it in the group wall of facebook itself
  8. Posting here is the sign of a coward
  9. Noone will believe my views
  10. v4vhse site is not famous
  11. So people will not read it
  12. I have no guts
  13. If I posses guts I should reveal my facebook ID or come to there
My replies

1. I am writing here nonsenses- That's my choice. Nonsense is your opinion. I don't think it is nonsense. If the admins of this site feel my post is nonsense they can remove it.


2. I haven't any job rather than typing this- I don't like to reveal my job. Anyway from expressing opinions in web forums do not result in getting money, it causes to loss of time ( If I engaged in anyother activity I can earn money), the internet connection expense, depreciation of computer equipment, electricity charge etc are expenses which I have to give for this typing, so this activity is not a job, for every job helps to earn money,not to spend it


3. I am simply sitting in front of computer and typing nonsense- It is under my own expense. You have no right to say I should leave from the front of computer


4. I am engaged in abusing leaders of Facebook group formed for UGC NET 2012 June victims- I am illustrating the depth of misunderstanding propagated these people who claim themselves as leaders and cause for misguiding poor guys like you. Even a layman or who failed in 10th standard knows an appeal rejected in a division bench of high court can be submitted to Supreme court for revision. And a division bench has no authority to restrict a party to not to approach Supreme Court. But those having Post Graduate with more than 55% are not aware or just pretend as not aware to get likes in facebook and rise emotions only. Should I call them very brilliant rather than idiots. Even the original idiots may protest when I call them "idiots" because the original idiots will say we are idiots but will not do this type of utter foolishness. So king of idiots is the name befitted to such people

5. Those leaders are restlessly working for the benefit of all victims - What is the work done by them? Vaikom Muhammed basheer is the one of famous writer in malayalam (Kerala), Ettukali mammoonju (spider mammoonju) is one of his famous character. When some one in the village says a woman is pregnant, this character will say "that is mine". The facebook leaders are this type. Most of them are even not petitioners, just says bla bla bla out of the efforts and money of others. Eventually some of them are even not NET aspirants. The real credit of the development lies on the petitioners who opened the path of legal fighting, these people were simply sitting silently. When Kerala SB order came these spider character came and claimed its credit. There after so many court orders came, these reams were propagating not to give or join in petition then. But when the order came in favour they claimed it was out of their encouraging. One of the main leader is a social activist and a research scholar, he wants real experiment of social activism in his assignment and project, so victimised poor guys in fulfilling his project as Dharna and protest meets. Poor guys exposed harsh sun at the noon in Delhi and he was completing his project
On april 2013, the Kerala HC closed on vacation, one of member posted that she called to the home of Chief Justice and order will be out with in some days , the Jokeendar on seeing this (probably believed it was true) made a timeline post containing one line -"Kerala HC will be out soon " there was no source of news or even explanation. You like people covered him with likes and congratulations. But his post was just based on a rumour made the other user. This is not a simple example, if you watch you can see more example. Even today (3/5/2013) evening one of the user named rajeev (not full name) claimed he had visited UGC office and they have said that they have not received the order of Nagpur Court. He even uploaded an image as he went to UGC office. Soon this jokeendar fellow got inferiority complex and made a post that he had talked with Surendar singh. The details was just copy of rajeev. I am sure he is an Ettukali mammoonj who takes the credit of actions which is done by others.

One of the other leader said " The kerala DB order will come on april 5 Thanks" . He is also like jokeendar minded people. Only dialogue and no action.

6. I have some different opinion in this matter- Yes sure
7. I should express it in the group wall of facebook itself- I will decide that where to post and where not to post

8. Posting here is the sign of a coward- On what logic

9. Noone will believe my views- No problem. I am not compelling anyone to believe me. But even the quick net team of facebook has copied my post and pasted in their website (given credit to me). The logic and motive behind the filing appeal against top 15% rule of December NET Exam was from base of my post. You can read it from here.

10. v4vhse site is not famous website- I don't know. But it respond well in google for UGC, VHSE and PSC even if it is not a part of a world wide well established community like facebook

11. So people will not read it- I don't mind it- This matter is posted two days ago, but upto this time it got 350 views. Atleast 300 people will have read it

12. I have no guts- I think you are the wholesaler of guts. Then borrow me some if you feel so

13. If I posses guts I should reveal my facebook ID or come to there- I have come there and watches even minute things, posting is my choice,

Hindi version
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अतिथि सदस्य निम्नलिखित बयान दिया गया है, नागपुर उच्च न्यायालय खंडपीठ के
आदेश और फेसबुक बेवकूफों की खबर पर मेरी पोस्ट करने के लिए एक जवाब के रूप
में, Sanjayg बुलाया


मैं यहाँ nonsenses लिख रहा हूँ

मैं किसी भी काम के बजाय इस टाइपिंग नहीं है

मैं बस कंप्यूटर और टाइपिंग बकवास के सामने बैठा हूँ

मैं यूजीसी नेट 2012 जून पीड़ितों के लिए गठित Facebook समूह के नेताओं को कोस में लगी हूँ

उन नेताओं को बड़ी बेसब्री से सभी पीड़ितों के लाभ के लिए काम कर रहे हैं

मैं इस मामले में कुछ अलग राय है

मैं facebook खुद के समूह दीवार में यह व्यक्त करना चाहिए

यहाँ पोस्टिंग एक कायर की निशानी है

कोई भी मेरे विचारों को मानना ​​होगा

v4vhse साइट प्रसिद्ध नहीं है

इसलिए लोग इसे नहीं पढ़ा होगा

मैं कोई हिम्मत

मैं पास हिम्मत है तो मैं अपने फेसबुक आईडी से पता चलता है या वहाँ के लिए आना चाहिए


मेरा उत्तरों

1. मैं nonsenses-कि मेरी पसंद है यहाँ लिख रहा हूँ. बकवास अपनी राय है. मैं यह बकवास है नहीं लगता है. इस साइट के व्यवस्थापक अपनी पोस्ट बकवास है लगता है कि वे इसे दूर कर सकते हैं.

2. बल्कि मैं इस मैं अपनी नौकरी प्रकट करने के लिए पसंद नहीं है टाइपिंग के अलावा कोई काम नहीं है. वैसे
भी वेब मंचों में राय व्यक्त पैसा मिल रहा में परिणाम नहीं है से, यह समय
की हानि (मैं anyother गतिविधि में लिप्त है तो मैं पैसे कमा सकते हैं) का
कारण बनता है, इंटरनेट कनेक्शन खर्च, कंप्यूटर उपकरणों का ह्रास, बिजली
प्रभारी आदि खर्च कर रहे हैं जो मैं इस
टाइपिंग के लिए दे दिया है, ताकि इस गतिविधि इसे खर्च करने के लिए नहीं,
हर काम के लिए पैसे कमाने के लिए मदद करता है के लिए, एक नौकरी नहीं है

3. मैं बस कंप्यूटर के सामने बैठे और बकवास, यह मेरे स्वयं के खर्च के अधीन है टाइप कर रहा हूँ. तुम्हें पता है मैं कंप्यूटर के सामने से छोड़ देना चाहिए कहने का कोई अधिकार नहीं

4. मैं
यूजीसी नेट 2012 के लिए गठित फेसबुक समूह के नेताओं को कोस में लगे हुए
जून पीड़ितों-मैं गलतफहमी की गहराई illustrating नेताओं और आप जैसे गरीब
लोगों को गुमराह करने के लिए कारण के रूप में खुद को जो दावा है कि इन
लोगों को प्रचारित कर रहा हूँ. 10
वीं कक्षा में असफल रहा जो यहां तक ​​कि एक आम आदमी या उच्च न्यायालय की
एक खंडपीठ में अस्वीकार कर दिया एक अपील संशोधन के लिए सर्वोच्च अदालत में
प्रस्तुत किया जा सकता है जानता है. और एक खंडपीठ ने सुप्रीम कोर्ट के दृष्टिकोण को नहीं करने के लिए एक पार्टी को प्रतिबंधित करने के लिए कोई अधिकार नहीं है. लेकिन
55% से अधिक के साथ पोस्ट ग्रेजुएट होने के Facebook और केवल वृद्धि
भावनाओं में पसंद प्राप्त करने के बारे में पता ही नहीं नाटक अभी अवगत हैं
या नहीं. बल्कि मैं बेवकूफों से उन्हें बहुत शानदार फोन करना चाहिए. मैं
उन्हें "बेवकूफ" कहते हैं कि जब मूल बेवकूफों हम बेवकूफ हैं कहेंगे लेकिन
निरा मूर्खता के इस प्रकार से काम नहीं चलेगा, क्योंकि यहां तक ​​कि मूल
बेवकूफों विरोध हो सकता है. बेवकूफों के राजा ऐसे लोगों को befitted नाम है तो


5. उन नेताओं को बड़ी बेसब्री से सभी पीड़ितों के लाभ के लिए काम कर रहे हैं - उनके द्वारा किए गए कार्य क्या है? वाईकॉम
मोहम्मद बशीर मलयालम (केरल), Ettukali mammoonju (मकड़ी mammoonju) में
मशहूर लेखक से एक है अपने प्रसिद्ध चरित्र में से एक है. गांव में कुछ एक एक महिला गर्भवती है जब वे कहते हैं, यह चरित्र है कि "मेरा है" कहेंगे. फेसबुक के नेताओं के इस प्रकार के होते हैं. उनमें से अधिकांश याचिकाकर्ताओं भी नहीं कर रहे हैं, बस दूसरों के प्रयासों और पैसे के bla bla bla बाहर कहते हैं. आखिरकार उनमें से कुछ भी नेट अभ्यर्थियों नहीं हैं. विकास की वास्तविक क्रेडिट कानूनी लड़ाई के मार्ग खोला जो याचिकाकर्ताओं पर स्थित है, इन लोगों को बस चुपचाप बैठे थे. केरल एस.बी. आदेश आया था, जब इन मकड़ी चरित्र आया और अपने क्रेडिट का दावा किया. इतने सारे अदालत के आदेश आया था वहाँ के बाद, इन reams दे या फिर इस याचिका में शामिल होने के लिए नहीं प्रचार कर रहे थे. लेकिन आदेश के पक्ष में आया था जब वे यह उनके उत्साहजनक के बाहर दावा किया गया था. मुख्य
नेता से एक एक सामाजिक कार्यकर्ता और एक शोध छात्र है, वह अपने काम और
परियोजना में सामाजिक सक्रियता के वास्तविक प्रयोग, धरना के रूप में अपनी
परियोजना को पूरा करने में इतना पीड़ित गरीब लोगों और विरोध मिलता है चाहता
है. गरीब लोगों को दिल्ली में दोपहर में कठोर सूरज संपर्क में है और वह अपनी परियोजना को पूरा किया गया था

अप्रैल
2013 में, केरल उच्च न्यायालय, छुट्टी पर वह मुख्य न्यायाधीश के घर को
बुलाया और आदेश कुछ दिनों में साथ बाहर हो जाएगा कि तैनात सदस्य में से एक
को बंद कर दिया, देखकर Jokeendar इस (शायद यह सच था माना) एक समय पोस्ट
बनाया एक लाइन से युक्त - "केरल हाईकोर्ट बाहर हो जाएगा जल्द ही" समाचार या भी स्पष्टीकरण का कोई स्रोत नहीं था. आप लोगों को पसंद और बधाई के साथ उसे कवर पसंद है. लेकिन अपने पद सिर्फ एक अफवाह के आधार पर अन्य उपयोगकर्ता बनाया गया था. यदि आप अधिक उदाहरण देख सकते हैं देखते हैं यह एक साधारण उदाहरण नहीं है. यहां
तक ​​कि आज (2013/03/05) शाम राजीव (पूर्ण नहीं नाम) नामक उपयोगकर्ता की
गयी वह यूजीसी कार्यालय का दौरा किया था और दावा किया कि वे नागपुर
न्यायालय का आदेश प्राप्त नहीं हुआ है कि कहा है. वह विश्वविद्यालय अनुदान आयोग के कार्यालय के पास गया के रूप में वह भी एक छवि अपलोड की गई. जल्द ही इस jokeendar साथी हीन भावना मिल गया है और वह सुरेंदर सिंह के साथ बात की थी कि एक के बाद बनाया है. विवरण राजीव की सिर्फ नकल था. मुझे लगता है वह दूसरों के द्वारा किया जाता है, जो कार्रवाई के ऋण लेता है, जो एक Ettukali mammoonj है यकीन है.


अन्य नेता में से एक "केरल डीबी आदेश 5 अप्रैल धन्यवाद पर आ जाएगा" कहा. उन्होंने jokeendar जैसे लोगों के दिमाग भी है. केवल बातचीत और कोई कार्रवाई नहीं की.


6. मैं इस बात हाँ यकीन में कुछ अलग राय है

7. मैं ही, मैं पोस्ट और पोस्ट करने के लिए नहीं है, जहां जहां तय करेगा कि फेसबुक के समूह दीवार में यह व्यक्त करना चाहिए


8. यहाँ पोस्टिंग एक कायर आन की निशानी है क्या तर्क


9. कोई भी अपने विचार, कोई समस्या नहीं मानना ​​होगा. मैं मुझ पर विश्वास करने के लिए मजबूर कर किसी को भी नहीं हूँ. लेकिन फेसबुक की भी जल्दी शुद्ध टीम अपने पद की नकल की और (मेरे लिए ऋण दिया) अपनी वेबसाइट में चिपकाया गया है. दिसम्बर नेट परीक्षा के शीर्ष 15% शासन के खिलाफ दाखिल अपील के पीछे तर्क और मकसद अपने पद के आधार से था. आप यहाँ से पढ़ सकते हैं.

10. v4vhse साइट वेबसाइट मैं नहीं जानता प्रसिद्ध नहीं है. यह
facebook की तरह एक विश्व व्यापी अच्छी तरह से स्थापित समुदाय का हिस्सा
नहीं है लेकिन फिर भी अगर यह यूजीसी, VHSE और पीएससी के लिए गूगल में अच्छी
तरह से प्रतिक्रिया


11. ताकि
लोगों को पढ़ा नहीं होगा यह मुझे कोई आपत्ति नहीं है, यह इस बात दो दिन
पहले पोस्ट किया है, लेकिन इस समय तक यह 350 विचारों मिल गया है. कम से कम 300 लोग इसे पढ़ा होगा


12. मैं कोई हिम्मत, मुझे लगता है कि आप हिम्मत के थोक व्यापारी हैं. आपको ऐसा महसूस हो रहा है तो मुझे कुछ उधार


13. मैं
पास हिम्मत है तो मैं अपने फेसबुक आईडी से पता चलता है या नहीं चलना चाहिए
वहाँ मैं वहाँ आ गए और पोस्टिंग भी मिनट चीजें देखता मेरी पसंद है है,

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Post by Sanjayg on Sat May 04, 2013 2:33 pm

Hello doshi

You are a man with jealousy. I cannot suggest any medicine for it. If you don't know about the case say nothing about it. The people will give like to any post which they like, and there is no meaning of becoming jealousy for that. You can't make me to your opinion by some illogical statements. Remember it. I am one of victim of June and I get a lot of relief from group in facebook. You are not suggesting any idea or activity rather than criticising and actually you lack a lot of information

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Post by shankarj on Sat May 04, 2013 5:17 pm

Very bad way of time pass

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Post by vivaradoshi on Sat May 04, 2013 10:00 pm

Thanks a lot for sanjayg for seeing you again. I feel sympathy on you. I think you are the real victim of June NET exam and is in the path of fighting. Congrats and wish you to happen things as per your desire as early as possible.


Your criticism towards me is more personal and subjective. You are attacking me personally again and again. But my criticism is factual and objective. You must cross those facts rather than criticizing me as jealousy. Everything I said is based on the facts and if you are opposing it by facts I will correct myself. You said you will not agree me. I don't need anybody's sanction,likes or favoritism. I will say the facts which I feel it is correct.

I think one of the main misunderstanding of you about me is that you feel I am against Facebook groups and members in the group related with victims of June 2012. That is not true. I respect many of the members. I congratulate some leaders who found those groups which provide a good platform to organize people, share ideas and suggestions,formulating plans and strategies, predicting possibilities and evaluating outcomes. I am also got many benefits from those groups. I have received many valuable RTI replies and files which made aware me the facts. The difference in opinion is a natural phenomenon in such groups. But the difference should be treated democratically.

Some persons in both groups who sits in the seat of leader are very much blindly minded. Unfortunately their opinion get prominence. " Make the hay while sun shines " is a good phrase which means do things when situations are favorable. The time when a favorable court order issued is the best time to organise people. Unfortunately the bad leaders are doing negative things. Instead of encouraging new comers to make them prepared for Supreme court. they are engaged in propagating all things are finished and now only exist the formality of issuing certificate. They are giving the message to new comers to be lazy and eat from the benefit of petitioners money and effort. Such leaders are in an ego. I have felt sympathy to many members who had given many valuable suggestion of keeping things going on but these idiotic persons rejected it as the idea was not came their brain. That is the problem of leaders. They insist the idea should come from their own head. Any useful suggestion irrespective how brilliant it is they reject it. These all nonsense are by misreading the lines of Nagpur Court order. They propagate a theory that Nagpur DB prohibited UGC from approaching Supreme Court. Thanks to a comment from a user in facebook group, I will explain it here

The request of learned counsel for the respondents to stay the order to enable the University Grant Commission to approach the Supreme Court is rejected.
This is the sentense which is misinterpreted. What does this sentence mean? Is it prohibit UGC from approaching SC? It is a simple sentence which can be even well understood by a man knowing English. The sentence can be again simplified as follows:
1] The learned counsel (Advocate Mishra) made a request for respondents (UGC)
2] The request was to stay the order
3] Stay is beneficial (Not essential) to UGC to approach SC
4] The request was rejected - Therefore the request to stay the order is only rejected. Not the right of UGC to go SC. The allowance of stay may be enable UGC to Supreme Court but the rejection of the same does not make UGC disable to approach Supreme Court. When this is indicated by a user the leader himself made a post in timeline that all should ignore that.
What I understood from the above statement is that:
1] The office procedures take more time. UGC is not a single person to take and implement decision on the same day. The nagpur order published in website on 2/5/2013. On the previous day one of the leader has declared he will go to UGC office tomorrow (2/5/2013) with copy of verdict. But when it received they have decided to go office on 6th May. Look, the students need not go through any formalities, yet a delay is taken. So guess the delay in official procedures, especially when UGC have to prepare the documents and writ petition to approach Supreme court. An appeal should be prepared very carefully, the legal cell of UGC have to work more. So they have applied for stay the order
2]The rejection of stay will not make UGC to not to approach SC. A high court has no power to make a party to not to go for further appeal in Higher Court. Even the Ajmal kasab had a chance to appeal in SC and after that review by President. So the Nagpur high court only refused the appeal of UGC to stay their order temporarily for getting time to prepare for appeal in SC. The rejection make UGC to do things faster because there is no time
3] UGC has already decided to approach Supreme Court. Do you think the advocate Mishra applied for a stay to approach them Supreme court is his own decision? Has he the power to take such a big decision. The answer is obviously No. So what can be happened? In any of the previous meeting UGC had decided to approach Supreme Court if Nagpur DB order is not favourable to them and so the Mishra had given the stay request containing " we request before the Honorable Court to stay the order for ------ period to enable us to approach SC" . This is given in accordance with a decision taken in a previous meeting. This simple logic is not understood by those donkey leaders and they are proving that they do not even deserve a NET certificate

Hello sanjayg - this is the truth. You say I am jealousy. Fools may like and follow fools. Why do I need to become envy of them? I am sympathetic them for being misguided.

Then you get relief from them. If you are so sad, then liquor or drugs may give you temporary relief. When the hang is over from your head you again reached in the real world of reality. That is the relief given by these idiots. The permanent relief is convincing the real situation. Not hiding it by thinking the members may unlike or feel bad.

Then you says I am not suggesting any alternative idea. I have suggested it where it need. You don't know about it. What now I am suggesting is prepare for Supreme Court. Total petitioners are about 3000 and many of them are not sure they will again contribute to money towards the huge fee of Supreme Court Judges. It is sure that UGC will approach SC. Other statements like UGC is afraid to go SC because they feel shame on the failure in SC, The SC may reject appeal before taking into file etc are just emotional statements and I think they have come from the desire of candidates. And then if no advocate is attended the student side, surely, the arguments of UGC will get prominence and thus SC may give a verdict in favour of UGC. And these facebook idiots can discuss then "whether SC order is applicable to all. The petitioner will not get certificate because SC ordered but we are non-petitioners and so there is no problem in issuing certificate to us" etc and etc. So please organise well and only if organised well, and only if organised well you can get a positive verdict from Supreme Court. It is easy comment in facebook as 'we are prepared to go SC' and 'we will win sure' 'the final victory will be ours etc. But noone thinks about the practical path, difficulties and threats, the preparations required to defend in supreme court rather than wasting time in making emotional statements. And instead of convincing the seriousness of issue , leaders are giving the message for being lazy and not produce any vital support. "You don't worry. The order will be applicable to all" is the representative comment towards new members asking doubt. Its extension is "you please sit in your home in idle. The petitioners will give appeal and spend money. If you have no problem like my all comment.You need not join petition or connect others to organise"

At last you say, I lack information. You are correct. I don't know how much case is pending against UGC in different courts and like things. But I know very well about the Kerala situation rather than you or any petitioner know. I will finish this long post after explaining that back ground story (Not a story- but real experience)

You know there are about 3000 petitioners in Kerala. More candidates are victims in other states but number of petitioners are negligible when compared with Kerala. Do you think this is an automatic thing? The SB order of Kerala contained many points having more than 60 pages that is too typed without line space (Nagpur DB order has also 44 pages, But name of parties have omitted and space adjusted it will be only 10 pages). Do you think this order is also came without a research?

The background starts 18 years ago, when NET was introduced. In one of the district of Kerala there was a brilliant student who earned very high marks and good academic record. His dream was to become a college lecture and serve students. The financial background of his family was not much big to purchase a lecture post in govt aided college. Moreover his post graduation was in Law and so the opportunity was low. But the introduction of NET for lectures came as a barrier to him. Yet he was confident that he could pass it easily. The only limit was the bad handwriting. You know a man with fluent ideas can write with his natural way of writing. When he try to slow it for good handwriting his fluency of words will stop and thus difficult to write the points. He attended the exam. That time UGC never revealed any criteria. The employment news was only source to get result. If the roll number is there he passed and if it is not there failed. That was the condition. Our brilliant law student attempted twice in NET. But both times he could not find his number in result. He was sure both time he may pass. But he did not understand what had happened. No proofs, no replies for inquiry, no change card for revaluation etc. helped him to understand the result declaration is not rational and subject like law it is difficult to pass. He left his ambition. his dreams became waste. He selected the field of lawyer. His brilliance made him famous. At last June 2012, he heard UGC has decided to take objective test in all 3 papers. And the criteria is 40 40 50. He recalled his old days and thought if UGC had implemented it in that time he may had become a famous professor without even reading single line in law book to get an easy 40 40 50.

After result he knew UGC has played a bad trick. If you believe it or not, he was the one major hand in organising petitioners all over in Kerala. Most of the petitioners will not know this. They have intimated by their friends that a case is proposed to give in high court and knew nothing more than that. The contribution of such petitioners are also limited in Rs 3000- 5000 and copies of hall ticket, mark sheet and OMR. It is his effort.It was his revenge to UGC who struck his dreams by changing an eligibility test to a competitive test. During his time there was no proof. But in June 2012 the weapon was given by UGC. He is responsible for points argued in SB and his effort will not become in vain because of an elaborated order from SB.

So sanjayg, please don't tell I knew nothing about it. Thanks

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Post by vivaradoshi on Sat May 04, 2013 10:03 pm

फिर आप को देखने के लिए sanjayg के लिए बहुत बहुत धन्यवाद. मैं तुम पर सहानुभूति लग रहा है. मैं आपको जून नेट परीक्षा की असली शिकार हैं और लड़ने के रास्ते में है. बधाई हो और जितनी जल्दी हो सके अपनी इच्छा के अनुसार बातें होने कामना करते हैं.
मेरे प्रति आपके आलोचना अधिक व्यक्तिगत और व्यक्तिपरक है. आप व्यक्तिगत रूप से मुझे बार बार हमला कर रहे हैं. लेकिन मेरी आलोचना तथ्यात्मक और उद्देश्य है. आप बल्कि ईर्ष्या के रूप में मेरी आलोचना से उन तथ्यों को पार करना होगा. मैं ने कहा कि सब कुछ तथ्यों पर आधारित है और आप तथ्यों से इसका विरोध कर रहे हैं तो मैं खुद को सही होगा. आप मुझसे सहमत नहीं करेगी. मुझे किसी की मंजूरी, पसंद या पक्षपात की जरूरत नहीं है. मुझे लगता है मैं यह सही लगता है जो तथ्यों को कहेंगे.


मैं अपने बारे में आप का मुख्य गलतफहमी में से एक तुम मैं जून 2012 के पीड़ितों के साथ संबंधित समूह में फेसबुक समूहों और सदस्यों के खिलाफ हूँ महसूस हो रहा है कि लगता है. यह सच नहीं है. मैं सदस्यों के कई सम्मान करते हैं. मैं लोगों को, शेयर विचारों और सुझावों, योजनाओं और रणनीति तैयार संभावनाओं का अनुमान लगाया है और परिणामों के मूल्यांकन का आयोजन करने के लिए एक अच्छा मंच प्रदान करते हैं जो उन समूहों पाया जो कुछ नेताओं को बधाई देता हूं. मैं भी उन समूहों से कई लाभ मिल रहा है. मैं मुझे तथ्यों के बारे में पता किया जो कई मूल्यवान आरटीआई का जवाब दें और फ़ाइलों को प्राप्त हुआ है. राय में अंतर यह है कि इस तरह के समूहों में एक प्राकृतिक घटना है. लेकिन अंतर यह है कि लोकतांत्रिक तरीके से व्यवहार किया जाना चाहिए.



नेता की सीट में बैठता है जो दोनों समूहों में कुछ व्यक्तियों बहुत ज्यादा आँख बंद करके दिमाग हैं. दुर्भाग्य से उनकी राय शोहरत मिलती है. परिस्थितियों के अनुकूल हैं जब बातें करते हैं जिसका मतलब है एक अच्छा मुहावरा है "बहती गंगा में हाथ धोना". जारी किए गए एक अनुकूल अदालत के आदेश के लोगों को संगठित करने के लिए सबसे अच्छा समय है जब समय. दुर्भाग्य से बुरा नेताओं नकारात्मक बातें कर रहे हैं. इसके बजाय उन्हें सुप्रीम कोर्ट के लिए तैयार करने के लिए नए comers को प्रोत्साहित करने की. वे सब बातें समाप्त हो गया और अब केवल प्रमाण पत्र जारी करने की औपचारिकता मौजूद रहे हैं प्रचार में लगे हुए हैं. वे आलसी और याचिकाकर्ताओं पैसे और प्रयास के लाभ से खाने के लिए नए comers को संदेश दे रहे हैं. इस तरह के नेताओं के एक अहंकार में हैं. मैंचीजों पर जा रहा है लेकिन विचार उनके दिमाग में आया था नहीं किया गया थाके रूप में इन मूर्खतापूर्ण व्यक्तियों इसे अस्वीकार कर रखने के कई बहुमूल्य सुझाव दिया था जो कई सदस्यों के लिए सहानुभूति महसूस किया है. यही कारण है कि नेताओं की समस्या है. उन्होंने यह विचार उनके स्वयं के सिर से आना चाहिए जोर देते हैं. किसी भी उपयोगी सुझाव दिए बिना यह है कि कैसे शानदार वे इसे अस्वीकार. ये सब बकवास नागपुर कोर्ट के आदेश की तर्ज ग़लत व्याख्या कर रहे हैं. वे नागपुर डीबी सर्वोच्च न्यायालय के पास जाने से यूजीसी निषिद्ध है कि एक सिद्धांत का प्रचार. Facebook समूह में एक उपयोगकर्ता से एक टिप्पणी के लिए धन्यवाद, मैं यहां यह समझा जाएगा

विश्वविद्यालय अनुदान आयोग ने सुप्रीम कोर्ट ने खारिज कर दिया है दृष्टिकोण करने के लिए सक्षम करने के लिए रहने के लिए उत्तरदाताओं के लिए सीखा वकील के अनुरोध.


यह गलत व्याख्या है जो sentense है. इस वाक्य का क्या मतलब है? यह अनुसूचित जाति के पास जाने से यूजीसी निषेध है? यह भी अच्छी तरह से अंग्रेजी जानने के एक आदमी से समझा जा सकता है जो एक साधारण वाक्य है. वाक्य फिर निम्नानुसार सरल किया जा सकता है:

1] सीखा वकील (एडवोकेट मिश्रा) (यूजीसी) उत्तरदाताओं के लिए एक अनुरोध किया

2] अनुरोध आदेश रहने के लिए था

3] रहो अनुसूचित जाति के दृष्टिकोण के लिए विश्वविद्यालय अनुदान आयोग के लिए (नहीं आवश्यक) फायदेमंद है


4] के अनुरोध को अस्वीकार कर दिया गया था - इसलिए आदेश रहने के लिए अनुरोध केवल खारिज कर दिया है. सुप्रीम कोर्ट जाने के लिए विश्वविद्यालय अनुदान आयोग की न सही. रहने का भत्ता सुप्रीम कोर्ट में यूजीसी सक्षम हो सकता है, लेकिन एक ही की अस्वीकृति यूजीसी सुप्रीम कोर्ट के दृष्टिकोण को अक्षम नहीं कर सकता है. यह एक उपयोगकर्ता नेता ने संकेत दिया है जब खुद को लगता है कि सभी को नजरअंदाज करना चाहिए कि इस समय में एक के बाद बनाया है.

क्या मैं उपरोक्त कथन से समझा है:

1] कार्यालय प्रक्रियाओं और समय लगेगा. यूजीसी के एक ही दिन में निर्णय लेने और लागू करने के लिए एक भी व्यक्ति नहीं है. नागपुर आदेश 2013/02/05 पर वेबसाइट में प्रकाशित. पिछले दिन पर नेता से एक वह फैसले की प्रति के साथ यूजीसी कार्यालय कल (2013/02/05) के लिए जाना जाएगा की घोषणा की है. लेकिन इसे प्राप्त जब वे 6 मई को दफ्तर जाने का फैसला किया है. देखो, छात्रों के एक देरी लिया जाता है और अभी तक कोई औपचारिकताओं के माध्यम से जाने की जरूरत नहीं है. तो यूजीसी सर्वोच्च अदालत के दस्तावेजों और रिट याचिका तैयार करने की है, खासकर जब सरकारी प्रक्रियाओं में देरी लगता है. एक अपील बहुत सावधानी से तैयार किया जाना चाहिए, विश्वविद्यालय अनुदान आयोग के कानूनी सेल अधिक काम करना है. तो वे आदेश रहने के लिए आवेदन किया है


2] रहने की अस्वीकृति अनुसूचित जाति के दृष्टिकोण को नहीं करने के लिए विश्वविद्यालय अनुदान आयोग नहीं कर देगा. एक उच्च न्यायालय ने उच्च न्यायालय में आगे अपील करने के लिए जाने के लिए नहीं करने के लिए एक पार्टी बनाने की कोई शक्ति है. यहां तक ​​कि अजमल कसाब ने सुप्रीम कोर्ट में है और राष्ट्रपति ने कहा कि समीक्षा के बाद अपील करने का मौका था. तोनागपुर उच्च न्यायालय ने ही सुप्रीम कोर्ट में अपील के लिए तैयार करने केलिए समय प्राप्त करने के लिए अस्थायी रूप से अपने आदेश रहने के लिए यूजीसी की अपील से इनकार कर दिया. कोई समय नहीं है, क्योंकि वहाँ अस्वीकृति तेजी से बातें करने के लिए विश्वविद्यालय अनुदान आयोग बनाने


3] यूजीसी पहले ही सुप्रीम कोर्ट के दृष्टिकोण का फैसला किया है. आप मिश्रा उनके दृष्टिकोण को एक रहने के लिए आवेदन अधिवक्ता सुप्रीम कोर्ट अपने ही निर्णय है लगता है? वह इतना बड़ा निर्णय लेने की शक्ति है. जवाब जाहिर हुआ जा सकता है तो क्या नंबर है? यूजीसीनागपुर डीबी आदेश उनके लिए अनुकूल नहीं है और इसलिए मिश्रा "हम के लिए आदेश रहने के लिए माननीय न्यायालय के समक्ष अनुरोध युक्त रहने अनुरोध दिया था कि अगर सुप्रीम कोर्ट के दृष्टिकोण का फैसला किया था पिछली बैठक से किसीमें ------ अवधि "हमें अनुसूचित जाति के दृष्टिकोण के लिए सक्षम करने के लिए. यह एक पिछली बैठक में लिए गए निर्णय के अनुसार दिया जाता है. यह सरल तर्क उन गधा नेताओं द्वारा समझ नहीं है और वे भी एक नेट प्रमाणपत्र के लायक नहीं है कि साबित हो रहे हैं


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तो आप उन लोगों से राहत मिलती है. तुम इतनी दुखी हो, तो शराब या ड्रग्स आप अस्थायी राहत दे सकता है. हैंग अपने सिर से खत्म हो गया है जब आप फिर से वास्तविकता की असली दुनिया में पहुंच गया. यही कारण है कि इन बेवकूफों द्वारा दिए गए राहत है. स्थायी राहत वास्तविक स्थिति कायल है. सदस्यों सोच से यह छुपा नहीं या विपरीत बुरा लग सकता है.



तो फिर तुम मुझे किसी भी वैकल्पिक विचार नहीं सुझाव दे रहा हूँ कहते हैं. यह जरूरत है, जहां मैं यह सुझाव दिया है. आप इसके बारे में पता नहीं है. क्या अब मैं सुझाव दे रहा हूँ सुप्रीम कोर्ट के लिए तैयार है. कुल याचिकाकर्ताओं 3000 के बारे में हैं और उनमें से कई वे फिर से सुप्रीम कोर्ट के न्यायाधीशों की भारी शुल्क की दिशा में पैसे के लिए योगदान देगा यकीन नहीं कर रहे हैं. यह यूजीसी अनुसूचित जाति दृष्टिकोण होगा कि यकीन है. वे अनुसूचित जाति में विफलता पर शर्म महसूस करते हैं क्योंकि यूजीसी की तरह अन्य बयान सुप्रीम कोर्ट जाने का डर है, अनुसूचित जाति फाइल आदि में लेनेसे पहले अपील को अस्वीकार कर सकते हैं सिर्फ भावनात्मक बयान कर रहे हैं और

मुझे लगता है कि वे उम्मीदवारों की इच्छा से आए हैं लगता है. और कोई वकील छात्र पक्ष में भाग लिया है तो, निश्चित रूप से, विश्वविद्यालय अनुदान आयोग के तर्कों को प्रमुखता मिल जाएगा और इस प्रकार अनुसूचित जाति यूजीसी के पक्ष में फैसला दे सकता है. और इन फेसबुक बेवकूफ "अनुसूचित जाति आदेश सभी पर लागू होता है या नहीं. अनुसूचित जाति का आदेश दिया है लेकिन हम गैर याचिकाकर्ताओं हैं और इसलिए प्रमाण पत्र जारी करने में कोई समस्या नहीं है हमारे पास नहीं है क्योंकि याचिकाकर्ता प्रमाण पत्र नहीं मिलेगा" फिर चर्चा कर सकते हैं आदि और आदि तोसंगठित कृपया अच्छीतरह से और केवल आप अच्छी तरह से सुप्रीम कोर्ट से एक सकारात्मक फैसले कोप्राप्त कर सकते हैं का आयोजन अच्छी तरह से, और केवल संगठित अगर अगर. यह और 'अंतिम विजय आदि हमारा होगा' यकीन है कि हम जीतेंगे 'हम सुप्रीम कोर्टजाने के लिए तैयार हैं' लेकिन कोई व्यावहारिक रास्ता, कठिनाइयों और खतरों,सर्वोच्च में की रक्षा करने के लिए आवश्यक तैयारियों के बारे में सोचता हैके रूप में facebook में आसान टिप्पणी है अदालत बल्कि भावनात्मक बयान देने में समय बर्बाद कर से. बजायइस मामले की गंभीरता को समझाने की और, नेताओं को किसी भी महत्वपूर्णसमर्थन उत्पादन आलसी और नहीं होने के लिए संदेश दे रहे हैं. "तुम चिंता मत करो. आदेश सभी पर लागू होगा" संदेह पूछ नए सदस्यों की ओर प्रतिनिधि टिप्पणी है. इसकाविस्तार है, "आप बेकार में अपने घर में बैठकर करें. याचिकाकर्ताओं अपीलदेने के लिए और पैसा खर्च करना होगा. आप मेरे सभी comment.You आवश्यकता परयाचिका में शामिल होने या दूसरों को व्यवस्थित करने के लिए कनेक्ट नहीं कीतरह कोई समस्या नहीं है, तो"


आप कहते हैं कि अंत में, मैं जानकारी की कमी है. आप सही हैं. मैं कितना मामले विभिन्न अदालतों में और चीजों की तरह यूजीसी के खिलाफ लंबित है पता नहीं है. लेकिन मैं तुम्हें या किसी भी याचिकाकर्ता पता बजाय केरल स्थिति के बारे में बहुत अच्छी तरह से जानते हैं. मैं (नहीं एक कहानी है लेकिन वास्तविक अनुभव) कि वापस जमीन कहानी समझाने के बाद यह लंबे समय के बाद खत्म हो जाएगा



आप केरल में लगभग 3000 याचिकाकर्ताओं कर रहे हैं पता है. अधिक उम्मीदवारों को अन्य राज्यों में शिकार हैं, लेकिन केरल के साथ तुलना में याचिकाकर्ताओं की संख्या नगण्य हैं. आप इस एक स्वचालित बात है लगता है? केरलकी एस.बी. आदेश भी लाइन अंतरिक्ष (नागपुर डीबी आदेश भी 44 पृष्ठों की है,लेकिन पार्टियों के नाम छोड़ा गया है और अंतरिक्ष में यह केवल 10 पृष्ठोंकी जाएगी समायोजित) के बिना लिखा गया है कि 60 से अधिक पृष्ठों वाले कईबिंदुओं निहित. आप इस आदेश को भी एक शोध के बिना आया है लगता है?



पृष्ठभूमि नेट शुरू की गई थी, जब 18 साल पहले शुरू होता है. केरल के जिले से एक में बहुत उच्च अंक और अच्छा अकादमिक रिकॉर्ड कमाया है जो एक प्रतिभाशाली छात्र नहीं था. उसका सपना एक कॉलेज व्याख्यान हो जाते हैं और छात्रों की सेवा करने के लिए किया गया था. अपने परिवार की वित्तीय पृष्ठभूमि सरकारी सहायता प्राप्त महाविद्यालय में एक व्याख्यान पद खरीद करने के लिए बहुत बड़ा नहीं था. इसके अलावा अपनी पोस्ट ग्रेजुएशन कानून में था और इसलिए अवसर कम था. लेकिन व्याख्यान के लिए नेट की शुरूआत उसे करने के लिए एक बाधा के रूप में आया था. फिर भी वह आसानी से इसे पारित कर सकता है कि पूरा भरोसा था. केवल सीमा खराब लिखावट थी. आप धाराप्रवाह विचारों के साथ एक आदमी लेखन के अपने प्राकृतिक तरीके से लिख सकते हैं. वह अच्छी लिखावट के लिए यह धीमा करने की कोशिश में अपने शब्दों के प्रवाह को रोकने और इस तरह अंक लिखने के लिए मुश्किल होगा. उन्होंने कहा कि परीक्षा में भाग लिया. उस समय विश्वविद्यालय अनुदान आयोग के किसी भी मानदंड से पता चला कभी नहीं. रोजगार समाचार परिणाम प्राप्त करने का एकमात्र स्रोत था. रोल नंबर नहीं है तो वह बीत चुका है और यह वहाँ असफल नहीं है. यही हालत थी. हमारे प्रतिभाशाली कानून के छात्र नेट में दो बार प्रयास किया. लेकिन दोनों बार वह अपनी संख्या परिणाम में नहीं मिल सकता है. वह यकीन है कि वह पास हो सकता है दोनों समय था. लेकिन वह क्या हुआ था समझ में नहीं आया. पुनर्मूल्यांकनआदि के लिए कोई सबूत है, जांच के लिए कोई जवाब, कोई परिवर्तन कार्ड उसेपरिणाम घोषणा इसे पारित करने के लिए मुश्किल है तर्कसंगत और कानून की तरहनहीं है विषय को समझने में मदद की. उन्होंने कहा कि उनकी महत्वाकांक्षा को छोड़ दिया. अपने सपनों बेकार हो गया. वह वकील के क्षेत्र को चुना है. उसकी प्रतिभा उसे प्रसिद्ध बना दिया. पिछले साल जून 2012 में, वह यूजीसी सभी 3 अखबारों में वस्तुनिष्ठ परीक्षा लेने का फैसला किया है सुना. और मापदंड 40 40 50 है. वहअपने पुराने दिनों को याद किया और विश्वविद्यालय अनुदान आयोग के उस समयमें इसे लागू किया था तो वह भी एक आसान 40 40 50 पाने के लिए कानून कीकिताब में एक लाइन पढ़ने के बिना एक प्रसिद्ध प्राध्यापक बन गया था हो सकताहै सोचा.

परिणाम के बाद वह यूजीसी एक बुरी चाल निभाई है पता था. आप यह विश्वास है या नहीं, तो वह सभी केरल में खत्म आयोजन याचिकाकर्ताओं में एक प्रमुख हाथ था. याचिकाकर्ताओं में से अधिकांश को यह पता नहीं होगा. वे एक मामला उच्च न्यायालय में देने का प्रस्ताव किया है और उस से ज्यादा कुछ नहीं जानता है कि उनके मित्रों ने सूचित किया है. 5000 और हॉल टिकट की प्रतियां, अंक - पत्र और ओएमआर - ऐसे याचिकाकर्ताओं के योगदान को भी रुपये 3000 में सीमित कर रहे हैं. यह उसकी effort.It एक प्रतियोगी परीक्षा के लिए पात्रता परीक्षा को बदलकर अपने सपनों मारा जो यूजीसी को उसका बदला था है. अपने समय के दौरान वहाँ कोई सबूत नहीं था. लेकिन जून 2012 में हथियार यूजीसी द्वारा दिया गया था. उन्होंनेएस.बी. में तर्क दिया अंक के लिए जिम्मेदार है और अपने प्रयास क्योंकिएस.बी. से एक सविस्तार आदेश की व्यर्थ में नहीं बन जाएगा.

तो sanjayg, मैं इसके बारे में कुछ नहीं जानता था बताओ मत करो. धन्यवाद

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Post by Nelsonmj on Mon May 06, 2013 12:43 pm

Sir
Read your points well. A law student and a leader of June victim published in facebook update

Rule
regarding appeal in SC according to Justice K.D. SHAHI (HIGH COURT
ALLAHBAD):- If matter is in High Court than without the permission of HC
nobody can move in the Supreme Court for appeal, if victim want to
appeal but victim have no permission from high court than victim can
seek the permission from the SC for appeal after this victim can appeal.
In NHC case NHC rejected the application for the appeal of UGC in SC,
so UGC cant move in SC, if UGC want to appeal, first they will seek the
permission from SC than they can appeal....... THANKS


It means high court should give permission to appeal in SC. In our case it is stayed and so only option before UGC is to declare the result. isn't it?

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Post by vivaradoshi on Mon May 06, 2013 9:44 pm

Dear Nelson,




Thanks for your reply. I have seen it in the facebook itself. When a comment is made against there, containing criticism towards utmost positivity, the whole blindly minded common people will jump and attack on me and so avoided. People, especially youth, are celebrity minded. They need only celebration and want to share the emotional. Thus emotional comments get more likes there. If you update as "we will win...hum kamyab honge...." etc. then the community will consider you as a real leader and motivator. No one is interested in reality. They like only dreamy comments which takes them far away from the reality.

Here the basic disagreement between me and those is that they say and propagate "UGC cannot move to Supreme Court according to Nagpur DB order". I am against this. My opposing is not personal. I have cleared the point in above post. Rejecting a stay is not rejecting a party to approach SC. Nagpur DB has only refused to stay its own order as per application given by the UGC. If stay has allowed as per request of UGC, they may get more time to approach SC, but now only within 8 weeks else certificates should be issued within that period. One more hidden thing lying between the following lines of order are, normally court allow the time of one month to issue certificate, but by virtue of the request of stay order by UGC, the period is prolonged to one more month (8 weeks). It is the mercy of court towards UGC, though they rejected their application to stay, yet given a reasonable time to obey the order within or appeal in apex courts.

The request of learned counsel for the respondents to stay the order to enable the University Grant Commission to approach the Supreme Court is rejected. However, eight weeks’ time is granted to declare the results.

The above lines are from the order,which is misinterpreted. Today it is published in a national newspaper also as the facebook groups interpreted. This newspaper was one of the main who propagated a rumour as SC has ordered to issue certificate, when Kerala SB order came. This news has cooled the victims and so was caused for a grate failure in making that positive situation to a big movement which rebuild the indian educational culprits. So it is already NET passed people are playing these tricks, You know the cut off in Mass Communication and Journalism was nearly 40 40 50 for June 2012. Thus we can guess such people has working in those newspaper for cheap salary and so they want 'de organisation' of victims or fear about it becoming a mass movement. If a the present positive situation paves the way for a mass movement, then the bulk fees of SC advocates will not be a problem. To stop it they are again using the same trick. They say the certificate will be issued with in May 2013. Such NET passed people prove they deserve NET because they are brilliant and calculate the facebook idiots having minimum marks will become happy of these fake news. So they will not organise. Then they can't hire a SC advocate. And so UGC will not be crossed in SC. By that UGC will win in SC. I am very sympathetic that no one in facebook groups are aware of this. They just waste their time in making emotional updates like we will win sure etc.

Then next disagreement with me and facebook group is that their overconfidence on the matter of SC. Some of them agree the point UGC has no restriction to approach SC by the Nagpur. Yet they say 1) If they approach SC, they will reject it before admission or 2) They cannot win in SC anyway. I am sure both statements are nothing than just emotional,contains not even 10% logic, and came out of the desire of those who updates. Even the petition of Ajmal kasab and Afsal Guru has taken and heared, and so what is logic behind saying a civil matter will be rejected. A member in facebook and a veteran professor says her matter is in SC and she had also won in HC, But atlast when matter came in consideration of SC, she was not in a position to hire an efficient advocate and so failed in SC. That was a serious update. But the immatured members in facebook was asking to block her for 'discouraging' update.So in natural and normal thinking is applied UGC will move to SC. They are waiting to the same which happened to that Professor. Moreover Advocate Mishra for UGC, when applied for a stay, the cause shown in appeal was that UGC wants to go SC. What other proof is needed to prove UGC's intention?

Then about the statement of Law student. There is an ideal statement in malayalam. One who knows only something is dangerous than one who knows nothing. His quoted lines of Justice K.D. SHAHI (HIGH COURT ALLAHBAD) is only applicable to matter which is in the middle of hearing. When the hearing is not completed and a party feels this matter could not be heard in that court and he must be heard in SC, then he need the permission of the court to change the case. For disposed case it is not applicable. Moreover here the court did not order to not to appeal.

Today's joke- I have earlier said, when one Mr rajeev made an update in facebook group as he went to UGC office and they said UGC will decide what to do only after KHC DB, the main admin aroused his complex and made an update as "no one should believe the sayings of low level UGC officers and we will go and discuss the matter with highlevel officials". Means mr rajeev has only contacted low level officers and he has no contact with higher officials. We are only such caliber persons to contact with chairman. But today on 6/5/2012, those persons with caliber persons had went to UGC. They could not make the update even now. If it was a matter of pleasure they will have celebrate it from 12 pm. But even the peon in UGC may didn't mind them. So wait.... they are thinking what to update. Tomorrow can expect another blunder....


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Post by vivaradoshi on Tue May 07, 2013 10:00 pm

Today I got a personal message from one of the user here. He advised me not to criticise each and every action in facebook group and it is not a good habit see the evils only;try to find the goodness. That was the content of message. I accept it all the way. I appreciate the efforts of the facebook group for maintaining a strong platform for sharing ideas and plans. The user who messaged me said one more thing. It is so cheap that my criticism on the people who went to UGC office yesterday. They were going to give a memorandum which many of the victims can not do such an activity out of geographical hindrance. Then harassing it is equal to harassing all June 2012 victims. I agree with it. The activity done by those people is good. It is better to do something than do nothing.

Yet the friends, please realise that I am not against any activity. I am not criticising everything in facebook group for victims. I am only scrutinizing them. Only indicating mistakes. I am unable to indicate it in the facebook also, because I need to read and watch every topic related with June issue, I visit two major groups in facebook every day, the other group of quick net, related blogs and lislink etc. When I try to correct them there it will reach in my expulsion from groups,as they will take it as demotivation. So after 'get out' I will miss the information.

Yesterday one of the leader updated on their visit of UGC office in the late night. Before that he complained that about 15 people were offered to accompany with him, finally only 5 have come. This is the proof of my arguments. He himself has updated many times in the group to make them cool by "don't worry" statement. I have said it earlier that many of the victims are lazy- they have even costlier mobile phone with 2G or 3G connection and comes in facebook saying we are poor, not having cash to file in court etc. So they are in such a mood to not to take any action but need the benefit of others action and money. The cooling don't worry make these people more lazy, so they will not come from their house. Thus their complaint that many people who offered to accompany us did not kept their promise has no meaning. As you so, so shall reap.

The outcome of their visit was as I said yesterday. Nothing happened. They said a memorandum has been given and posted the copy. Another strange thing was they posted a copy of front page of Nagpur order with received seal of UGC- that too with blue coloured seal. Is UGC returned that copy to them as a proof?
The consideration in UGC office will be very rude and so to save the image they went to MHRD. The visit was not in the agenda early and so it was decided after rude consideration from UGC.

There is another big joke. It is about 11 000 kilo watts power supply. Hello sir, you can make the idiots to convince such a nonsense. He said reading the last line the UGC officer's face was shocked with 11000 KV. Ha ha ha.... The UGC office is in far away og Rajasthan desert, where there is no computer or internet. The court order copy was reading by them for first time when they give it and that too they were eagerly reading it and when reached in the 44 th and last page they get shocked.....ha ha ha. This is liked by atleast 50 people in facebook and believed as true by atleast 100 people. So please understand that I am calling them as idiots for no cause

Another member called robin at today mid noon made an update that one of his friend is working in UGC office and said they were engaged in preparation of June result 2012. I examined his profile. It was created recently and having only 11 friends, that too from the group of facebook. No leaders made comment on this update or asked him to reveal his identity. From this I could understand it is one of the fake profile of leader and he after making a rumour, enjoying everything behind the curtain

So dear messaged friend... Please observe and then say or believe. I have criticised everything which I feel deserve it. But it is not to destroy, just to aware the reality to interested people.

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Post by Josjames on Thu May 09, 2013 2:49 pm

Sir,
UGC has failed in Kerala High court single bench. Madras High court, Nagpur bench of Bombay high court Division bench, Gwalior bench of Madhyapradesh, Banglore bench of Karnataka high court, Madurai high court bench. The case is in the path of victory in Delhi high court, Chandigarh high court, Aurangabad bench of Maharashtra, Culcutta, Kerala high court Division bench, Bhopal high court etc. So why this pessimism? Be positive and think positively. Only positive thoughts will lead to success.

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Post by vivaradoshi on Thu May 09, 2013 9:12 pm

Thanks jose james for your free advice. You, after reading my post has been misunderstood as I am one with negative thought. But I believe positive thinking is not dreaming of unreality. Keeping the mind in idle by extra positive dreaming will reach a man in total loss. Real positivism is evaluating the past and predicting the future with facts and logic which has already come. I think you have well heard the story of 3 fishes. I will narrate here in brief.


There were 3 fishes in a pond. One day two fishermen passed by the pond and saw the fishes. They said. It seems there is a lot of fish in this pond. Let us come tomorrow in this way. In the night three fishers meet and shared their feelings. The first fish said. "It is sure that they will come tomorrow and catch us. So I have said to my bird friend to come early tomorrow to get me out here. She will take me to another pond"
The second fish said. "I am not ready to run away with fear. I have an idea and will use it`


The third fish was like you. It said. "I think they will not come tomorrow. If they will come they cannot catch us. The third fish was extra positive like your view about the June 2012 taken to SC. (UGC will not move, if they move they will fail). The second fish thought about the idea of saving its life. The third fish went to sleep.


The next day fishermen came. Before their coming, the first fish escaped. They caught the other two. The second fish keep silent and pretend as if died. The fisherman thought. "The fish is died and will be damaged, so can put it in water. He took it to pond. By the got chance the fish swim to deep pond and thus escaped. The extra positive third fish became delicious food of someone.

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Post by vivaradoshi on Sat May 18, 2013 11:02 pm

Every time I begin to type, many of my friends says, I am going to harsh critics towards something. In relation with UGC in this topic, I criticised facebook leaders and their lack of imagination or foolishness for getting likes and applauding comments. But in the past week, there happened some positiveness. Some of the members, especially lady members took up the responsibility in root level. ie. organising the victims in different states for a grand protest at Delhi. I am not against protest, but believe protest has the role in proving the existence of 'the group' in real world. Mere commenting, sharing ideas through facebook will not attract the outsiders attention. The UGC, Govt, Media and general public should be aware of the existence of such a large number of people are here who had victimised by UGC- This could be only possible through a well-organised protest. Yet candidates should understand it is not a short cut to get the certificate. Some of the candidates think that UGC will issue certificates in the evening of the day in which protest is made.

A new leader from Maharashtra has emerged in facebook and made an update that he is going to organise a press conference at the earliest- Got 65 likes and 75 comments with in 2 days. After that no one enquired what happened. Recalling or remembering is curse and forgetting is a bless- Especially for fake promises

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Post by Ismailn on Sun May 19, 2013 1:16 pm

All things you said seems logical, practically the out come is opposite. You said UGC has already decided to move SC in previous meeting. It is may 19, and not yet they moved, also SC is in vacation. So it is proved wrong

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Post by sunflower.facebook on Mon May 20, 2013 3:35 pm

Some fools think that UGC is above the court .. hahaha.. Smile We will come to know about that. lol. Some ppl r saying like this UGC wnt obey court order. hahahahahahahahahaha.......... Poor guys .. Like kids they are speaking. They dnt know what is Judiciary. Basketball
These fools write many comments as if they know everything.. LOL>.. IGNORE THIS BABYS//


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Post by vivaradoshi on Mon May 20, 2013 11:46 pm

Dear ismailn sir,

You said my words are proved wrong. I will be the happiest man if it is proved wrong. But you are too early to say that. You can say it after June 30, 2013 if UGC does not approaches SC and decides to issue certificate as per the order of Nagpur Bench. Then you can say my words were totally wrong.
I am at present also ( today is 20th May 2013) believes UGC will give appeal at any time at SC before petitioners can file contempt of court. Without consent of chairman and a decision taken in meeting, the advocate will not write an application for stay in nagpur as the cause shown is "for going supreme court". The advocate himself at his own risk will not write such a cause (Please stay the order because we(UGC) want to go Supreme Court). Then think, I admit I am fool. but who is king of fool. Without observing these simple thing, some people say UGC will not go SC only out of their desire and I establish the opposite side with logic.

And ismailn, you said My words have been proved wrong? Can you provide any proof/ report or authentic news on the matter that UGC is decided to not to go SC. You states it only out of the vacation of SC. What do you think about vacation? Do you think all the complex of court will be closed and there will be only a security guards on gate in vacation. Dear friend, vacation only means the judges will not be there for hearing the cases as regular period. A vacation bench will be there and it will work atleast two days per week. The court office will work as other seasons. Can receive petitions and writs as other season, the only implication of vacation is that judges will not be present as regular working days.

Then next doubt- it has more than 20 days and not yet given revision appeal by UGC. You should understand the difference between taking the decision and implementation of that decision. The decision to go SC can be taken earlier, but its implementation is time consuming. UGC is not a single person like you to prepare something in the night and submit it in the next morning. Before implementing the decision they have to complete office formalities and procedures. One or two meeting of important persons of legal cell, the preparation of review petition is an activity must be done with utmost care. You can not prepare it like a letter to your girl friend, for that reason UGC asked the time and applied for stay in Nagpur and they got 8 weeks. So if the certificate is not issued, they have to acknowledge the nagpur court about their decision to go SC within that stipulated time. So my dear friend ismailn, don't jump before realising victory, you can do it after June 30 if UGC not submitted review petition

Sunflower... I never said UGC is above the law or court. I have described the foolishness of those people who just dreamed all things have completed. You can illustrate me as a fool or baby. It is quite interesting that one who state the possibilities on the basis of the facts is illustrated as a baby and people who says UGC will issue certificates without any base is illustrated as matured gigantic persons. I have no doubt UGC will issue certificate if they cancel their decision of going SC (Non- implementation of taken decision) or if they fail in SC. And also sure they will fail in SC because of weak law points. But my warning is not to sit lazily by saying these "UGC will fail in SC 1000% sure". If you sit simply by saying this you will experience what happened for Rabbit in the old Aesop's fable. The rabbit was over confident about its victory in running competition and so slept well and so his opponent turtle win the race. If you go to sleep like that rabbit by saying 1000% surety, the other petitioners will be in trouble to find enough money for fee of Advocates and by virtue of this UGC tortoises will win the race.
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Post by vidhibab on Tue May 21, 2013 2:26 pm

 you have no gutts to break the unity of ugc net june 2012 victims on facebook.....

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Post by Sumitjain on Tue May 21, 2013 4:25 pm

Dear vivara..have u read Article 134-A of the Indian Constitution. I cant write big essay like u. Plz read it and you are also far away from reality and legal procedure. U r over imagining but the june group members are not idiots. Do you think you are enough smart to judge someone or a group of scholars? Talking about Art 134-A when any petition is decided it is decided by the HC that whether party can go in appeal to SC or not. And yes my frnd it is a right which is given by court. Another thing i know UGC can move under SLP U/A 136. But do you think judges of all the HCs have less knowledge then ur ideas? If they have supported the students then SC will also do that. And to prove this no authenticity is needed it is principle of common law and natural justice. I am sorry if I hurt u but u are totally wrong here my frnd. No fight can be won without hope it may be false or it may be true. Let me also tell u a story- it was time of war between two kings one was with more army and other was weak. Weak king thought what he should do to save himself from losing war. He said his small army to march rapidly in the area during night. The spy of strong king thought they have wrong knowledge about the strength of king and they advised their king to cancel the fight and he did so. Moral is sometimes fake hopes (acc to u) can make a huge difference. Last thing the group is not made to provide information only but also to keep everybody together and i think they are doing a very good job. God bless every one.
P.s. It is easy to condemn then to appreciate.

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Post by Malamaram chakkappan on Tue May 21, 2013 8:09 pm

Sorry for my entrance, as I am some more busy I could not furnish my opinion in this matter, I am not a member of those referred group of facebook, still I know the facts of case. Any way I request everyone to continue healthy discussion, avoid criticism towards person or group.
The article 134 A referred here can be read from the below links:
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